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wolseley hornet swallow bodied
October 16, 2018
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Philip Cordery
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Have recently purchased this car now back in the UK ,bought from a deceased restorer, in Malta, prior to that it was purchased from Fort Laurderdale in the USA, according to the badge which is missing, only have a photo, the car was raced there with an MG engine fitted, at that time it was green, with a large dent in its rear body, cannot find the chassis NO or engine need help in locating, green photo shows car in USA, brown & cream its present colour,
does any one have any knowledge of this car , origional Reg etc, i do have an engineers report with the No 48580 quoted for chassis ,
lots of parts missing , steering tie bar, windscreen , shocks etc etc, I look forward to receiving loads of replies to this. Thanks Phil FB_IMG_1536398037969.jpgImage Enlarger

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October 17, 2018
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Hi Phil

Welcome to the Wolseley Register and to this forum! Your car looks to be an excellent project, however you will have your work cut out obtaining all the spares that you will need! We do have a quite a few members with Hornet Specials and one with a lovely Swallow Bodied example. I have checked our List of Recorded Vehicles and can confirm tha there is no car with that chassis number known.

I would suggest that you contact Dave Palmer, our technical adviser on these models who should be able to assist you with the location of the numbers, (he doesn’t use the forum). He may also be able to tell you what parts that you need are common to other models, which may then help us to find something suitable. The Wolseley Hornet Special Club may also be able to help you with these queries.

Sorry it is a little vague
Bob

October 17, 2018
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Hi Phil,
I had a later Hornet Special than yours and the engine number was stamped into the block on the left hand side just in front of the flywheel under the Startix unit.
The chassis number should be on the same side stamped into the left hand side of the chassis near the front, it will start with the chassis number followed by the sanction number it can be seen when the left bonnet side is open.
Hope this helps.
Graham.

October 18, 2018
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Thanks for the prompt reply, Graham, name is familiar, im sure i sold you a Vauxhall about 25 years ago, anyway back to Wolsey see pics, I found an Engine No seems a strange No 10-51-A, had to take off front wing to gain access to chassis, but could not see any numbers, 2 pics attached one of front chassis & one of chassis from Rad back, whereabouts should i be looking , before i scrape any paint off,P1040775.JPGImage Enlarger

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October 18, 2018
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Hi Phil,
Yes you did when I was trading back in Kent.
The engine number that ends A/51 denotes a 1932 model, if there is no more than number 10 before it yours would appear to be a very early one.
1932 chassis numbers start at 105001 so one from that series is what to look for. The design of your chassis is not the same as mine so I can’t be sure of the exact location. Try looking in the dumb-iron area . the numbers were stamped clearly and should be visible if the paint is not too thick. If you don’t have any luck try as Bob suggested contacting the W.H.S.Club they will be able to tell you exactly where to look.
Graham.

October 18, 2018
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Prior to the 1934 model Hornet Specials, the chassis number, refered to by Wolseley as the Sanction number,was not stamped on the chassis!
There are 2 locations for it though.
First is on the top of the rear axle, the second is on the front axle beam on the nearside where the axle sweeps up towards the kingpin.
The first Hornets, 1930/31, with the vertical dynamo engine, were Sanction 50. Sanction 51 were late 1931 or early 1932.
The first Special chassis were sanction 65.
The car probably left the factory as a saloon & had a coach bult body put on it. (The motoring adverts of the time had many unused saloon bodies advertised for sale). Wolseley marketed a few chassis for coachbuilders, completer with their own unique handbook, before bringing out the Hornet Special in April, 1932.
The carbs are later, probably 1950’s, (originals had an open throaght with no provision for bolting an air filter.
Graham Whitaker

October 19, 2018
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Have found the Numbers 4629 & underneath it 5R or 5RA on top of diff casing, ratio is 9/44

October 19, 2018
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Hi, the ratio is correct for the car, it is the ‘big’ axle, with 1.1/8″ dia halfshafts.
The car is probably crab tracked, i.e. the front axle is wider than the back.
I will check records for more info on the numbers you quote.
Graham

October 19, 2018
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Thanks very much appreciated,

October 25, 2018
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Any Luck with tracing my car, I do have an engineers report with chassis No stated as 48580 Am at a loss as to where he found the No ,
does the number make any sense,

October 25, 2018
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Hi, no Specials or saloons had numbers like that. The order of sanction (chassis) numbers is as follows:
Hornet saloons were 50. Chassis only were 51.
Next sanction of saloons were 55,
Overseas Chassis were 57
Next sanction of saloons were 64
Then came the Specials sanction 65
Saloons then became 75
Specials then were 78
Overseas were 81
Saloons 91
Saloons 107
Specials 114
Saloon 120
Overseas chassis 124
14 hp Specials were 163
Then the New Twelve 178
Fourteen was156
New Fourteen was 181
Graham Whitaker

October 27, 2018
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Have been informed of the following ,Chassis No 6/51, Car No 105006, Engine 10/51A, does this all make sense now, any record of Registration Number, ?

October 27, 2018
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As I said previously the engine number is an early one and as G.W. indicated it could be late ’31 or early ’32.
If you read my second post again noting the chassis numbers it confirms that the the car is one of the first bearing that sequence of numbers.
Obtaining the original registration number is a different matter, it will be dependant on your being able to produce evidence of it’s original one, if you don’t have or can’t obtain any the best you can hope for is the allocation of an age related one.
Graham.

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